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Paul Ragna
Jul 31, 2023, 1:55:43 PM7/31/23
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Not too encouraging.
<https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-owners-best-worst-things-ev-model-
3-elon-musk-2023-7>
"Here's what thousands of Tesla owners really think about their Model 3"
"The bad
"Numerous problems with reliability follow a pattern. First, Tesla claims
it doesn't exist, then they damage the car trying to fix it. Window
actuators failed multiple times. Each time claimed no problem. Then, when
they looked at, once they damaged the door trying to slam it while window
stayed open, second time, cut the interior while trying to replace
actuator. Both times, they needed to keep for 10 days to fix their own
fubar.""
""The wheel well rusts and Tesla claims it is normal. This is the first
time I've seen a wheel well rust from the 5 or so cars I have owned in
the past."
"I've been unable to use USB storage and charging for years, HVAC system
doesn't work properly above 32 F, rear inverter blew while parked, some
trim pieces fell off"
"Car has been unable to drive for 3 months. AC system has not worked for
over a year. Very dissatisfied."
"Worst car I've ever owned. Appears to have been assembled by a 6 year
old. Drunk. With a hand tied behind his back. Garbage.""
"Autopilot and FSD"
""I definitely feel safer driving with it. It isn't perfect, but neither
am I, and we complement each other's weaknesses. It has faster reaction
times and sees better (360 degrees)."
"People's risk profiles understandably differ, but if auto pilot is used
properly and expectations are realistic, it's outstanding and much
safer."
"It is dangerous and this man must be stopped."
"This $10,000 option was clearly fraud and should be treated as such by
regulators.""
""Phantom braking is a frightening experience that greatly lowers
confidence in FSD. I simply don't trust it and would like a refund."
"My wife describes Autopilot and FSD in the following way, 'Your car
drives like a drunk old man.'"
"FSD is nowhere near safe enough to be used on public roads without 100%
driver attention. Given that drivers rely on the hype and not reality, I
think this is likely to create unsafe situations for everyone sharing the
road.""
<https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-owners-best-worst-things-ev-model-
3-elon-musk-2023-7>
"Here's what thousands of Tesla owners really think about their Model 3"
"The bad
"Numerous problems with reliability follow a pattern. First, Tesla claims
it doesn't exist, then they damage the car trying to fix it. Window
actuators failed multiple times. Each time claimed no problem. Then, when
they looked at, once they damaged the door trying to slam it while window
stayed open, second time, cut the interior while trying to replace
actuator. Both times, they needed to keep for 10 days to fix their own
fubar.""
""The wheel well rusts and Tesla claims it is normal. This is the first
time I've seen a wheel well rust from the 5 or so cars I have owned in
the past."
"I've been unable to use USB storage and charging for years, HVAC system
doesn't work properly above 32 F, rear inverter blew while parked, some
trim pieces fell off"
"Car has been unable to drive for 3 months. AC system has not worked for
over a year. Very dissatisfied."
"Worst car I've ever owned. Appears to have been assembled by a 6 year
old. Drunk. With a hand tied behind his back. Garbage.""
"Autopilot and FSD"
""I definitely feel safer driving with it. It isn't perfect, but neither
am I, and we complement each other's weaknesses. It has faster reaction
times and sees better (360 degrees)."
"People's risk profiles understandably differ, but if auto pilot is used
properly and expectations are realistic, it's outstanding and much
safer."
"It is dangerous and this man must be stopped."
"This $10,000 option was clearly fraud and should be treated as such by
regulators.""
""Phantom braking is a frightening experience that greatly lowers
confidence in FSD. I simply don't trust it and would like a refund."
"My wife describes Autopilot and FSD in the following way, 'Your car
drives like a drunk old man.'"
"FSD is nowhere near safe enough to be used on public roads without 100%
driver attention. Given that drivers rely on the hype and not reality, I
think this is likely to create unsafe situations for everyone sharing the
road.""
Mitchell Holman
Jul 31, 2023, 2:30:03 PM7/31/23
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Paul Ragna <tpragn...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0528DAE55D...@135.181.20.170:
> Not too encouraging.
>
> <https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-owners-best-worst-things-ev-mode
Jan 9 2023
No. 10: Ford F-150 Lightning/Rivian R1T
No. 9: Volkswagen ID.4
No. 8: Kia EV6
No. 7: Hyundai IONIQ 5
No. 6: Tesla Model X
No. 5: Chevy Bolt EV/EUV
No. 4: Tesla Model S
No. 3: Ford Mustang Mach-E
No. 2: Tesla Model 3
No. 1: Tesla Model Y
https://electrek.co/2023/01/09/the-top-10-best-selling-electric-vehicles-
in-the-us-of-2022/
news:XnsB0528DAE55D...@135.181.20.170:
> Not too encouraging.
>
> <https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-owners-best-worst-things-ev-mode
> l- 3-elon-musk-2023-7>
>
> "Here's what thousands of Tesla owners really think about their Model
> 3"
2022 top 10 best-selling electric vehicles in the US
>
> "Here's what thousands of Tesla owners really think about their Model
> 3"
Jan 9 2023
No. 10: Ford F-150 Lightning/Rivian R1T
No. 9: Volkswagen ID.4
No. 8: Kia EV6
No. 7: Hyundai IONIQ 5
No. 6: Tesla Model X
No. 5: Chevy Bolt EV/EUV
No. 4: Tesla Model S
No. 3: Ford Mustang Mach-E
No. 2: Tesla Model 3
No. 1: Tesla Model Y
https://electrek.co/2023/01/09/the-top-10-best-selling-electric-vehicles-
in-the-us-of-2022/
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jul 31, 2023, 2:43:26 PM7/31/23
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[Default] Mitchell Holman <noe...@verizon.net> typed:
Subtract one Tesla owner from the list and add one to VW.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11481839/Alyssa-Milano-traded-Tesla-electric-VW-protest-against-Elon-Musk-buying-Twitter.html
Actress Alyssa Milano takes to TWITTER to reveal she's traded her
Tesla for an electric VW to protest Elon Musk's purchase of social
media firm
Milano used Twitter itself to publicize her distaste for the social
media platform
She exchanged it for a VW - many pointed out the auto company's link
to Nazism
'I'm not sure how advertisers can buy space on Twitter. Publicly
traded company's products being pushed in alignment with hate and
white supremacy doesn't seem to be a winning business model,' added
the addle-brained leftist actress, as she sped off in her VW, a brand
admired by and helped by Adolph Hitler.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11481839/Alyssa-Milano-traded-Tesla-electric-VW-protest-against-Elon-Musk-buying-Twitter.html
Actress Alyssa Milano takes to TWITTER to reveal she's traded her
Tesla for an electric VW to protest Elon Musk's purchase of social
media firm
Milano used Twitter itself to publicize her distaste for the social
media platform
She exchanged it for a VW - many pointed out the auto company's link
to Nazism
'I'm not sure how advertisers can buy space on Twitter. Publicly
traded company's products being pushed in alignment with hate and
white supremacy doesn't seem to be a winning business model,' added
the addle-brained leftist actress, as she sped off in her VW, a brand
admired by and helped by Adolph Hitler.
Charlie Glock
Jul 31, 2023, 4:06:26 PM7/31/23
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I would never buy a car from VW because they are reliability nightmares.
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Mitchell Holman
Jul 31, 2023, 10:23:46 PM7/31/23
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Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
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ing.dwarf.com:
Good for her.
Musk is a rightwing capitalist pig and
as soon as someone builds a better EV than
Tesla I will buy one.
news:900gci92g0oq16mmt...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
ing.dwarf.com:
Musk is a rightwing capitalist pig and
as soon as someone builds a better EV than
Tesla I will buy one.
soup
Aug 1, 2023, 3:04:44 AM8/1/23
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On 01/08/2023 03:23, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:900gci92g0oq16mmt...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
> ing.dwarf.com:
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:900gci92g0oq16mmt...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
> ing.dwarf.com:
>> Subtract one Tesla owner from the list and add one to VW.
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11481839/Alyssa-Milano-traded-
>> Tesla-electric-VW-protest-against-Elon-Musk-buying-Twitter.html
>>
>> Actress Alyssa Milano takes to TWITTER to reveal she's traded her
>> Tesla for an electric VW to protest Elon Musk's purchase of social
>> media firm
>
>
> Good for her.
Frying pan ~ fire comes to mind.
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11481839/Alyssa-Milano-traded-
>> Tesla-electric-VW-protest-against-Elon-Musk-buying-Twitter.html
>>
>> Actress Alyssa Milano takes to TWITTER to reveal she's traded her
>> Tesla for an electric VW to protest Elon Musk's purchase of social
>> media firm
>
>
> Good for her.
Wasn't VW founded by a certain Ferdinand Porsche at the behest of an
Austrian painter who was running the country at the time?
Oh about 1937 if memory serves.
Siri Cruise
Aug 1, 2023, 6:44:17 AM8/1/23
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Japanese cars.
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Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 1, 2023, 6:48:55 AM8/1/23
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soup
Aug 1, 2023, 7:17:13 AM8/1/23
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On 01/08/2023 11:44, Siri Cruise wrote:
> soup wrote:
>> On 01/08/2023 03:23, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:900gci92g0oq16mmt...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
>>> ing.dwarf.com:
>>
>>
>>>> Subtract one Tesla owner from the list and add one to VW.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11481839/Alyssa-Milano-traded-
>>>> Tesla-electric-VW-protest-against-Elon-Musk-buying-Twitter.html
>>>>
>>>> Actress Alyssa Milano takes to TWITTER to reveal she's traded her
>>>> Tesla for an electric VW to protest Elon Musk's purchase of social
>>>> media firm
>>>
>>>
>>> Good for her.
>>
>> Frying pan ~ fire comes to mind.
>> Wasn't VW founded by a certain Ferdinand Porsche at the behest of an
>> Austrian painter who was running the country at the time?
>> Oh about 1937 if memory serves.
>
> Think what would happen if we forgot Pearl Harbour and bought Japanese
> cars.
Well, you go buy Japanese if you want to. ;P)
> soup wrote:
>> On 01/08/2023 03:23, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:900gci92g0oq16mmt...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
>>> ing.dwarf.com:
>>
>>
>>>> Subtract one Tesla owner from the list and add one to VW.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11481839/Alyssa-Milano-traded-
>>>> Tesla-electric-VW-protest-against-Elon-Musk-buying-Twitter.html
>>>>
>>>> Actress Alyssa Milano takes to TWITTER to reveal she's traded her
>>>> Tesla for an electric VW to protest Elon Musk's purchase of social
>>>> media firm
>>>
>>>
>>> Good for her.
>>
>> Frying pan ~ fire comes to mind.
>> Wasn't VW founded by a certain Ferdinand Porsche at the behest of an
>> Austrian painter who was running the country at the time?
>> Oh about 1937 if memory serves.
>
> Think what would happen if we forgot Pearl Harbour and bought Japanese
> cars.
Joking aside I am not saying we shouldn't do it .
Merely that it strikes me as rather strange that AM is boycotting(and
making a big deal of the boycott) a company run(not founded) by Elon
Musk, as it is too right wing, to go to one that is founded by genuine
Nazis.
Comment :- Looking into what companies had right wing founders it
appears the motor 'industry' was very incestuous and everyone seemed to
work everywhere at one time or another(<only slight hyperbole), is there
a totally ethical history to any motor manufacturer ?
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short leash by Yours Truly, making atrocious spelling errors &
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psychotic, racist, mathematically-challenged, democracy-hating,
misogynist, transphobic, homophobic white-supremacist piece of 💩 who
suspiciously quacks a lot like Neal Warren AKA Greg Hall taking a break
from the stormfront discussion boards to tail transgendered people
around on usenet posting as "Klown Scheißefreude (X-Complaints-To:
ab...@blocknews.net) <klaus.schadenfreude.l�schen.@gmail.com>" begging
DESPERATELY for transwomen to use his restroom instead of the "non-hawt"
manly transmen that are already using "his" men's room without his
permission when he's not making public criminal threats of bodily harm
to others, violating the terms of service of Blocknews (SPOILER: he's
been forging that X-Header, and I bet he thinks that the
highwinds-media Path: wasn't a dead giveaway), being led around on a
short leash by Yours Truly, making atrocious spelling errors &
spastically firing off blank poasts when he gets "frisky", and all
while unconvincingly ranting that all of his infantile hijinx are a
gold standard example of "sanity" determined that the following was of
great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<onohcihvarbustao5...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking
.dwarf.com>:
Which model of Tesla do you drive, Klaus? ...or do you just ride Elon Musk's dikk when you need to go somewhere?
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Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
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Aug 1, 2023, 11:36:13 AM8/1/23
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🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Jen 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender
is this anything
Scout
Aug 1, 2023, 11:46:27 AM8/1/23
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"Charlie Glock" <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:2vUxM.134748$ens9....@fx45.iad...
the case.
The only unscheduled maintenance ever required was replacement of the clutch
cylinder.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 1, 2023, 12:20:43 PM8/1/23
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[Default] ??????????Jen?????????? Dershmender ????????????????????
<ro...@127.0.0.1> typed:
>Which model of Tesla do you drive, Klaus? ...or do you just ride Elon Musk's dikk when you need to go somewhere?
I don't have a Tesla. I like my pickup just fine, because it
frightens Rudy.
Do you think about Elon's dick a lot?
Never mind. I don't want to know.
5.56 hitting en engine block
https://www.theboxotruth.com/attachments/54-12-jpg.1690/
5.56mm hitting a tranny
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/NYPICHPDPICT000008891963.jpg?w=1024
<ro...@127.0.0.1> typed:
>Which model of Tesla do you drive, Klaus? ...or do you just ride Elon Musk's dikk when you need to go somewhere?
frightens Rudy.
Do you think about Elon's dick a lot?
Never mind. I don't want to know.
5.56 hitting en engine block
https://www.theboxotruth.com/attachments/54-12-jpg.1690/
5.56mm hitting a tranny
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/NYPICHPDPICT000008891963.jpg?w=1024
chrisv
Aug 1, 2023, 3:39:56 PM8/1/23
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
>Musk is a rightwing capitalist pig and
>as soon as someone builds a better EV than
>Tesla I will buy one.
As if he's any worse than the leaders of other car companies.
>Musk is a rightwing capitalist pig and
>as soon as someone builds a better EV than
>Tesla I will buy one.
Oh, that's right. He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad
person". /S
-hh
Aug 1, 2023, 5:51:28 PM8/1/23
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-hh
Mitchell Holman
Aug 1, 2023, 10:08:32 PM8/1/23
to
chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:lpnicil8qtv1goqce...@4ax.com:
Elon Musk’s Free-Speech Charade Is Over
April 23 2023
During his tenure at Twitter, Musk has
suspended reporters and left-wing accounts
that drew his ire, retaliated against media
organizations perceived as liberal, ordered
engineers to boost his tweets after he was
humiliated when a tweet from President Joe
Biden about the Super Bowl did better than
his own, secretly promoted a list of
accounts of his choice, and turned the
company’s verification process into a
subscription service that promises increased
visibility to Musk sycophants and users
desperate enough to pay for engagement. At
the request of the right-wing government in
India, the social network has blocked
particular tweets and accounts belonging to
that government’s critics, a more
straightforward example of traditional state
censorship. But despite all of that, he has
yet to face state legislation alleging that
what he does with the website he owns is
unconstitutional.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-free-
speech-matt-taibbi-substack/673698/
news:lpnicil8qtv1goqce...@4ax.com:
April 23 2023
During his tenure at Twitter, Musk has
suspended reporters and left-wing accounts
that drew his ire, retaliated against media
organizations perceived as liberal, ordered
engineers to boost his tweets after he was
humiliated when a tweet from President Joe
Biden about the Super Bowl did better than
his own, secretly promoted a list of
accounts of his choice, and turned the
company’s verification process into a
subscription service that promises increased
visibility to Musk sycophants and users
desperate enough to pay for engagement. At
the request of the right-wing government in
India, the social network has blocked
particular tweets and accounts belonging to
that government’s critics, a more
straightforward example of traditional state
censorship. But despite all of that, he has
yet to face state legislation alleging that
what he does with the website he owns is
unconstitutional.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-free-
speech-matt-taibbi-substack/673698/
Governor Swill
Aug 2, 2023, 12:12:35 AM8/2/23
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 09:38:45 -0500, "Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
wrote:
Maybe he once owned a French built VW?
Swill
--
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate
Inflation is already at Fed target.
It is below the long term historical average.
Unemployment remains low at under 4%.
Fed cuts have not pushed us into a recession.
Interest rates remain in historical low range.
The housing market is hot.
Manufacturing is hot.
"Comeback in Factory Jobs Appears to Be for Real"
<https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-02-09/comeback-in-factory-jobs-appears-to-be-for-real>
"Unpacking the Boom in U.S. Construction of Manufacturing Facilities"
<https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/unpacking-the-boom-in-us-construction-of-manufacturing-facilities>
Is manufacturing growing in the US?
"U.S. manufacturing growth outpaces the rest of the world
"It was negative for nearly the entire range, reaching a minimum of -8% in late 2021
before increasing to become positive in September 2022. In November 2022 it was 0.26%.
American manufacturing growth started outpacing the rest of the world's growth at the end
of last year for the first time in recent memory.Mar 7, 2023"
<https://www.axios.com/2023/03/07/us-manufacturing-growth-outpaced-world>
GO RFK!
Send money!
https://www.kennedy24.com
wrote:
Swill
--
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate
Inflation is already at Fed target.
It is below the long term historical average.
Unemployment remains low at under 4%.
Fed cuts have not pushed us into a recession.
Interest rates remain in historical low range.
The housing market is hot.
Manufacturing is hot.
"Comeback in Factory Jobs Appears to Be for Real"
<https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-02-09/comeback-in-factory-jobs-appears-to-be-for-real>
"Unpacking the Boom in U.S. Construction of Manufacturing Facilities"
<https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/unpacking-the-boom-in-us-construction-of-manufacturing-facilities>
Is manufacturing growing in the US?
"U.S. manufacturing growth outpaces the rest of the world
"It was negative for nearly the entire range, reaching a minimum of -8% in late 2021
before increasing to become positive in September 2022. In November 2022 it was 0.26%.
American manufacturing growth started outpacing the rest of the world's growth at the end
of last year for the first time in recent memory.Mar 7, 2023"
<https://www.axios.com/2023/03/07/us-manufacturing-growth-outpaced-world>
GO RFK!
Send money!
https://www.kennedy24.com
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 8:11:33 AM8/2/23
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“[Twitter] is suing the nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) over
claims it “embarked on a scare campaign” to drive away advertisers. The lawsuit
accuses the CCDH of “unlawfully” scraping data from Twitter and using it to
create “flawed” research studies about the platform.
The CCDH is an anti-hate organization that publishes research about the spread
of hateful content on social media platforms like Twitter. One recent CCDH study
claims Twitter has failed to act on 99 percent of hateful content posted by Twitter
Blue subscribers, and another states that the anti-LGBTQ+ “grooming” narrative
has grown exponentially since Elon Musk’s takeover.”
< https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/1/23815515/twitter-ccdh-anti-hate-research-group-lawsuit>
-hh
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 8:23:52 AM8/2/23
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
>chrisv wrote in
Oh, so what India demands is important, here? And now there's fees of
a few dollars? That's the best that you can do?
Even if it's now "right of center", I would say that that balance is
needed, considering that EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>chrisv wrote in
>>
>> He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad person". /S
>
> (BS snipped)
>> He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad person". /S
>
Oh, so what India demands is important, here? And now there's fees of
a few dollars? That's the best that you can do?
Even if it's now "right of center", I would say that that balance is
needed, considering that EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 8:24:50 AM8/2/23
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-hh wrote:
>hateful content
Where saying that men cannot become women is considered "hateful
content".
>hateful content
Where saying that men cannot become women is considered "hateful
content".
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 8:26:34 AM8/2/23
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-hh wrote:
>> Oh, that's right. He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad
>> person". /S
>
>He only claims to be pro-free speech, as his actions are not...
He's a fsck of a lot better than EVERY OTHER major social network.
>> Oh, that's right. He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad
>> person". /S
>
>He only claims to be pro-free speech, as his actions are not...
Thank God for Elon Musk.
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 8:51:17 AM8/2/23
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> Thank God for Elon Musk.
Is it because funding some real tech innovation for neat stuff doesn’t
actually stop him from being an egomaniacal asshole hypocrite who’s
out to deliberately do harm? His purchase of Twitter had nothing to do
with his ‘free speech’ claims: his goal isn’t to make money or be a free
speech platform, but to undermine & kill social media platform(s) entirely,
as they’ve been identified as existential threats to dictatorships. The key
to watch for is the Saudi “loans” on his $44B purchase: unless he turns on
them, they’ll never will foreclose to get their money back.
-hh
Siri Cruise
Aug 2, 2023, 9:09:58 AM8/2/23
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chrisv wrote:
> Even if it's now "right of center", I would say that that balance is
> needed, considering that EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>
And starting your own outlet was banned.
> Even if it's now "right of center", I would say that that balance is
> needed, considering that EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>
Siri Cruise
Aug 2, 2023, 9:11:08 AM8/2/23
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RabidPedagog
Aug 2, 2023, 10:46:36 AM8/2/23
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the established leftist narrative."
--
RabidPedagog
TG: @RabidPedagog
Galatians 6:7
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 11:18:18 AM8/2/23
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Therein lies their hypocrisy.
-hh
RabidPedagog
Aug 2, 2023, 11:42:15 AM8/2/23
to
organization designed to defame a person as hateful because you disagree
with them.
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 12:08:04 PM8/2/23
to
to his own “free” claims.
-hh
RabidPedagog
Aug 2, 2023, 1:24:22 PM8/2/23
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ridiculous claim you just made and make sure that your biases are
highlighted as they always are.
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 2:40:00 PM8/2/23
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< https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/elon-musk-free-speech-twitter-will-treat-cisgender-slur>
-hh
Relf
Aug 2, 2023, 3:51:11 PM8/2/23
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Joe Biden _must_ believe that robbing Peter to pay Paul is the right thing to do
( anything else would be "hate" ).
( anything else would be "hate" ).
Relf
Aug 2, 2023, 4:02:32 PM8/2/23
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You (Huntzinger) replied ( to AndyMatt ):
> > > the anti-LGBTQ+ “grooming” narrative has grown since Musk’s takeover.
> > >
> > > anti-hate-lawsuit
> > > the anti-LGBTQ+ “grooming” narrative has grown since Musk’s takeover.
> > >
> > > anti-hate-lawsuit
> >
> > Except that "anti-hate" has, so far, been
> > "anything which disagrees with the established leftist narrative."
>
> But for a “free speech absolutist”, that’s not supposed to matter.
> Therein lies their hypocrisy.
Joe Biden is so f*cked in the head that it actually bothers me.
> > Except that "anti-hate" has, so far, been
> > "anything which disagrees with the established leftist narrative."
>
> But for a “free speech absolutist”, that’s not supposed to matter.
> Therein lies their hypocrisy.
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 5:19:05 PM8/2/23
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-hh wrote:
>His purchase of Twitter had nothing to do with his ‘free speech’ claims:
Yes it does.
>His purchase of Twitter had nothing to do with his ‘free speech’ claims:
>his goal isn’t to make money or be a free
>speech platform, but to undermine & kill social media platform(s) entirely,
>as they’ve been identified as existential threats to dictatorships.
Biden administration to censor "wrong think".
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 5:24:24 PM8/2/23
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-hh wrote:
>< https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/elon-musk-free-speech-twitter-will-treat-cisgender-slur>
OMG So what? There's "slurs" that the left doesn't like, too! Zero
"hypocrisy" on Musk's part.
>< https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/elon-musk-free-speech-twitter-will-treat-cisgender-slur>
OMG So what? There's "slurs" that the left doesn't like, too! Zero
"hypocrisy" on Musk's part.
RabidPedagog
Aug 2, 2023, 5:26:42 PM8/2/23
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
made-up prefix like "cis."
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 5:40:06 PM8/2/23
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RabidPedagog wrote:
>Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
>https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
>
>I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
>leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
>
>Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
>repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
>than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
>made-up prefix like "cis."
A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
>https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
>
>I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
>leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
>
>Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
>repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
>than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
>made-up prefix like "cis."
views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
ideals as Americans.
Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 5:48:32 PM8/2/23
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Relf wrote:
>Joe Biden is so f*cked in the head that it actually bothers me.
He's a POS.
>Joe Biden is so f*cked in the head that it actually bothers me.
chrisv
Aug 2, 2023, 5:49:53 PM8/2/23
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RabidPedagog wrote:
>Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
>https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
>
>I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
>leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
>
>Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
>repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
>than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
>made-up prefix like "cis."
>Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
>https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
>
>I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
>leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
>
>Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
>repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
>than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
>made-up prefix like "cis."
Bud Dickmann
Aug 2, 2023, 5:52:26 PM8/2/23
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pointed out lies to the tech companies. The tech companies either took down the
lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
Stop lying.
RabidPedagog
Aug 2, 2023, 6:08:41 PM8/2/23
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company, he shouldn't be bothered that X/Twitter is considering
ridiculous prefixes like "cis" to go against their terms. Nevertheless,
in terms of freedom, X is better but still some distance from where it
needs to be. For one, certain de-platformed individuals remain blocked
from using the service. Who knows if they will ever be let back on.
Still, while I'm not on there, I've heard about their "community
feedback" feature which adds context to the ridiculous things
celebrities say so they can't easily get away with defaming someone.
Charlie Glock
Aug 2, 2023, 6:11:32 PM8/2/23
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sources that report the news rather than commentate on it as if they are reporting the news.
--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 2, 2023, 6:12:09 PM8/2/23
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[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:
>On 8/2/2023 2:49 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>> Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
>>> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
>>>
>>> I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
>>> leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
>>>
>>> Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
>>> repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
>>> than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
>>> made-up prefix like "cis."
>>
>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>> ideals as Americans.
>>
>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>
>The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>pointed out lies to the tech companies.
Except they weren't lies, you stupid fucking dwarf.
>The tech companies either took down the
>lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
Yes, they made them remove anything that didn't toe the government
line.
>Stop lying.
A series of internal Facebook emails obtained by the House Judiciary
Committee confirm that the Biden White House placed significant
pressure on the company to crack down on “misinformation” related to
the Covid pandemic in early 2021.
The emails, released publicly by committee chairman Jim Jordan on
Thursday, suggest that in some cases Facebook and Instagram complied
with the White House’s content-moderation requests in order to avoid
public and private backlash.
One April 2021 email sent by a Facebook employee on behalf of Meta CEO
Mark Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg acknowledged that, “We are
facing continued pressure from external stakeholders, including the
[Biden] White House.”
That same month Nick Clegg, Facebook’s president for global Affairs,
informed his team that senior Biden adviser Andy Slavitt, was
“outraged – not too strong a word to describe his reaction – that we
did not remove” a popular post. According to the Ohio Republican, the
offensive content was a humorous meme that suggested vaccine
recipients would be solicited to join class-action lawsuits in the
future.
Why do you INSIST on being such a stupid shitbag, "Cunt Flaps?"
>On 8/2/2023 2:49 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>> Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
>>> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
>>>
>>> I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
>>> leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
>>>
>>> Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
>>> repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
>>> than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
>>> made-up prefix like "cis."
>>
>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>> ideals as Americans.
>>
>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>
>The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>pointed out lies to the tech companies.
>The tech companies either took down the
>lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
line.
>Stop lying.
A series of internal Facebook emails obtained by the House Judiciary
Committee confirm that the Biden White House placed significant
pressure on the company to crack down on “misinformation” related to
the Covid pandemic in early 2021.
The emails, released publicly by committee chairman Jim Jordan on
Thursday, suggest that in some cases Facebook and Instagram complied
with the White House’s content-moderation requests in order to avoid
public and private backlash.
One April 2021 email sent by a Facebook employee on behalf of Meta CEO
Mark Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg acknowledged that, “We are
facing continued pressure from external stakeholders, including the
[Biden] White House.”
That same month Nick Clegg, Facebook’s president for global Affairs,
informed his team that senior Biden adviser Andy Slavitt, was
“outraged – not too strong a word to describe his reaction – that we
did not remove” a popular post. According to the Ohio Republican, the
offensive content was a humorous meme that suggested vaccine
recipients would be solicited to join class-action lawsuits in the
future.
Why do you INSIST on being such a stupid shitbag, "Cunt Flaps?"
Charlie Glock
Aug 2, 2023, 6:27:30 PM8/2/23
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On 2023-08-02, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Companies are eliminating DEI departments quickly.
<https://abcnews.go.com/US/corporate-america-slashing-dei-workers-amid-backlash-diversity/story?id=
100477952>
The Democrats had better watch out for the silent majority who vote with their wallet, ala Bud
Light, the Queen Of Beers.
And the so called "mama bears" are mobilizing to toss these ultra left wing people out of their
schools and out of government office.
It happened in Virginia and it will happen in many other places as well.
If the Democrats were smart, they would run RFK jr instead of the walking dead Joe Biden.
He is attracting a lot of people at his speaking engagement where folks are standing in line for
blocks just to hear him speak. Not to the trump level, but far, far, above what Biden can conjure
up.
The guy is sitting on a public beach with his wife and there are normal, everyday people walking
around him yet nobody stops to take a selfie or say hello?
If that were Trump, he would be mobbed.
Charlie Glock
Aug 2, 2023, 6:30:53 PM8/2/23
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On 2023-08-02, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Also the social media platforms are hiding behind Section 230 for protection.
This should be eliminated as it no longer serves it's original purpose.
Charlie Glock
Aug 2, 2023, 6:32:45 PM8/2/23
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You are incorrect, Rudy.
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532>
"Zuckerberg tells Rogan FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship"
Charlie Glock
Aug 2, 2023, 6:34:35 PM8/2/23
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On 2023-08-02, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
And his family, especially his glory seeking wife, should be ashamed of themselves for encouraging
him to run for the presidency. It all amounts to elder abuse.
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 9:22:20 PM8/2/23
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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
> >His purchase of Twitter had nothing to do with his ‘free speech’ claims:
>
> Yes it does.
Only in that it is what Musk claims as his motivation.
> -hh wrote:
>
> >His purchase of Twitter had nothing to do with his ‘free speech’ claims:
>
> Yes it does.
> > his goal isn’t to make money or be a free speech platform,
> > but to undermine & kill social media platform(s) entirely, as
> > they’ve been identified as existential threats to dictatorships.
>
> 180 degrees from what we've observed, with them colluding with the
> Biden administration to censor "wrong think".
doesn't see. Put three & five year reminders on your calendar (because I
suspect the former, but it could be the latter): if I'm wrong, I'll buy you a case
of good beer (or equivalent), with no wager reciprocity required on your end.
-hh
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 9:23:55 PM8/2/23
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-hh
-hh
Aug 2, 2023, 9:27:35 PM8/2/23
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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:40:06 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> RabidPedagog wrote:
>
> >Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
> >https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
> >
> >I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
> >leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
> >
> >Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
> >repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
> >than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
> >made-up prefix like "cis."
>
> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
> ideals as Americans.
And Twitter is a private company so that is their right.
> RabidPedagog wrote:
>
> >Vanity Fair: a very leftist source.
> >https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/
> >
> >I am _shocked_ that they wouldn't appreciate the fact that rabid
> >leftists no longer get to de-platform anyone they choose!
> >
> >Now that you've highlighted your bias and demonstrated your ability to
> >repeat what the establishment believes, explain to us why anyone other
> >than the hypnotized, brain-dead masses of the woke cult should use a
> >made-up prefix like "cis."
>
> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
> ideals as Americans.
But that's not what the point is here. It is simply noting that Elon has
"said one thing, but done another": made public statements that are
diametrically the opposite of what he is actually doing...ie, lying.
So if you're so "Mah Free Speech!", then why are you trying to shout down when
someone points out that Elon is lying? Hmmm?
-hh
Governor Swill
Aug 2, 2023, 10:03:54 PM8/2/23
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 07:23:48 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
*laughs and points*
The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
Swill
--
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate
Inflation is already at Fed target.
It is below the long term historical average.
Unemployment remains low at under 4%.
Fed cuts have not pushed us into a recession.
Interest rates remain in historical low range.
The housing market is hot.
Manufacturing is hot.
"Comeback in Factory Jobs Appears to Be for Real"
<https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-02-09/comeback-in-factory-jobs-appears-to-be-for-real>
"Unpacking the Boom in U.S. Construction of Manufacturing Facilities"
<https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/unpacking-the-boom-in-us-construction-of-manufacturing-facilities>
Is manufacturing growing in the US?
"U.S. manufacturing growth outpaces the rest of the world
"It was negative for nearly the entire range, reaching a minimum of -8% in late 2021
before increasing to become positive in September 2022. In November 2022 it was 0.26%.
American manufacturing growth started outpacing the rest of the world's growth at the end
of last year for the first time in recent memory.Mar 7, 2023"
<https://www.axios.com/2023/03/07/us-manufacturing-growth-outpaced-world>
GO RFK!
Send money!
https://www.kennedy24.com
>EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
*laughs and points*
The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
Swill
--
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate
Inflation is already at Fed target.
It is below the long term historical average.
Unemployment remains low at under 4%.
Fed cuts have not pushed us into a recession.
Interest rates remain in historical low range.
The housing market is hot.
Manufacturing is hot.
"Comeback in Factory Jobs Appears to Be for Real"
<https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-02-09/comeback-in-factory-jobs-appears-to-be-for-real>
"Unpacking the Boom in U.S. Construction of Manufacturing Facilities"
<https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/unpacking-the-boom-in-us-construction-of-manufacturing-facilities>
Is manufacturing growing in the US?
"U.S. manufacturing growth outpaces the rest of the world
"It was negative for nearly the entire range, reaching a minimum of -8% in late 2021
before increasing to become positive in September 2022. In November 2022 it was 0.26%.
American manufacturing growth started outpacing the rest of the world's growth at the end
of last year for the first time in recent memory.Mar 7, 2023"
<https://www.axios.com/2023/03/07/us-manufacturing-growth-outpaced-world>
GO RFK!
Send money!
https://www.kennedy24.com
Governor Swill
Aug 2, 2023, 10:04:50 PM8/2/23
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Scout
Aug 3, 2023, 10:19:04 AM8/3/23
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
message
news:otklcit4or1buli4b...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
to a reeducation camp until you learn how to think properly. Guards!
Gerald
Aug 4, 2023, 2:58:25 PM8/4/23
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>
>-hh wrote:
>
>>> Oh, that's right. He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad
>>> person". /S
>>
>>He only claims to be pro-free speech, as his actions are not...
>-hh wrote:
>
>>> Oh, that's right. He believes in free speech, which makes him a "bad
>>> person". /S
>>
>
>He's a fsck of a lot better than EVERY OTHER major social network.
>
>Thank God for Elon Musk.
>
>
>
All the Republicans I know drive cars from China.
Relf
Aug 4, 2023, 5:51:14 PM8/4/23
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> All the Republicans I know drive cars from China.
On average, Democrats earn 26.1 % more than Republicans.
slothe
Aug 4, 2023, 7:10:08 PM8/4/23
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On 04 Aug 2023, "Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> posted some news:Jeff-
Rel...@Aug.4--2.51pm.Seattle.2023:
>> All the Republicans I know drive cars from China.
>
> On average, Democrats earn 26.1 % more than Republicans.
Odd. I find it's more the opposite. Republicans who are willing to work
make more money than Democrats who change jobs to conform to whatever
goofy social media trend fits their fancy in a quarter.
Rel...@Aug.4--2.51pm.Seattle.2023:
>> All the Republicans I know drive cars from China.
>
> On average, Democrats earn 26.1 % more than Republicans.
make more money than Democrats who change jobs to conform to whatever
goofy social media trend fits their fancy in a quarter.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 4, 2023, 7:25:20 PM8/4/23
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[Default] slothe <slo...@netcom.com> typed:
What Jeff forgot to include::
https://www.thehivelaw.com/blog/average-income-republican-vs-democrat-by-political-party/#:~:text=Democrats%2C%20on%20average%2C%20earn%2026.1,for%20Democrat%20states%20is%20122.
The average cost of living index for Democrat states is 122.
The average cost of living index for Republican states is 93.95.
The cost of living in Democrat states is 29.85% higher than in
Republican states.
That means that:
Democrats earn 26.1% more than Republicans
Democrats pay 29.85% for their cost of living
Democrats KEEP 3.76% less than Republicans.
This is because, while they earn more, their cost of living is higher.
Percentage Of People On Welfare
The percentage of people on welfare, on average, is:
7.26% in Democratic states
6.83% in Republican states
Democrat states have 6.29% more people on welfare than Republican
states
Of course, the web site gives no sources for its data, so.....
https://www.thehivelaw.com/blog/average-income-republican-vs-democrat-by-political-party/#:~:text=Democrats%2C%20on%20average%2C%20earn%2026.1,for%20Democrat%20states%20is%20122.
The average cost of living index for Democrat states is 122.
The average cost of living index for Republican states is 93.95.
The cost of living in Democrat states is 29.85% higher than in
Republican states.
That means that:
Democrats earn 26.1% more than Republicans
Democrats pay 29.85% for their cost of living
Democrats KEEP 3.76% less than Republicans.
This is because, while they earn more, their cost of living is higher.
Percentage Of People On Welfare
The percentage of people on welfare, on average, is:
7.26% in Democratic states
6.83% in Republican states
Democrat states have 6.29% more people on welfare than Republican
states
Of course, the web site gives no sources for its data, so.....
Relf
Aug 4, 2023, 9:11:33 PM8/4/23
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Per capita, Washington DC makes 2.4x what Mississippi does ( 63,793 $ vz 26,807 ).
"Let them drive Teslas." -- First Marie Antoinette, then (clueless) Joe Biden.
"Rob Li'l Volod to pay Big Joe." -- "Technically guilty" (Big) Joe Biden.
[ "That's wrong" -- "technically innocent" Trump ]
"Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer.
Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden,
sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
"Let them drive Teslas." -- First Marie Antoinette, then (clueless) Joe Biden.
"Rob Li'l Volod to pay Big Joe." -- "Technically guilty" (Big) Joe Biden.
[ "That's wrong" -- "technically innocent" Trump ]
"Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer.
Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden,
sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
Charlie Glock
Aug 5, 2023, 8:03:07 AM8/5/23
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It will soon be a 2 class society:the elites and the rest of us poor.
We are headed towards a civil war of sorts and as we fight amongst ourselves, China, Russia and the
Middle East will take over the world. It has started already.
Siri Cruise
Aug 5, 2023, 8:23:28 AM8/5/23
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Charlie Glock wrote:
> The USA is quickly becoming a country of haves and havenots.
> It will soon be a 2 class society:the elites and the rest of us poor.
> We are headed towards a civil war of sorts and as we fight amongst ourselves,
Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for
> The USA is quickly becoming a country of haves and havenots.
> It will soon be a 2 class society:the elites and the rest of us poor.
> We are headed towards a civil war of sorts and as we fight amongst ourselves,
the have nots?
--
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
Relf
Aug 5, 2023, 8:46:49 AM8/5/23
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Glock:
According to the U.S state Department,
a two-year-old North Korean was sentenced "life in prison",
back in 2009, after his parents were caught with a Bible.
In Shanghai, 2023, police regularly inspect the contents of your phone,
( e.g. by surprising you on the bus ) looking for VPN's & such.
In Russia, you either worship St. Putin or fall out a window.
> China, Russia and the Middle East will take over the world.
China, Russia & the Middle East are morphing into North Korea.
According to the U.S state Department,
a two-year-old North Korean was sentenced "life in prison",
back in 2009, after his parents were caught with a Bible.
In Shanghai, 2023, police regularly inspect the contents of your phone,
( e.g. by surprising you on the bus ) looking for VPN's & such.
In Russia, you either worship St. Putin or fall out a window.
Relf
Aug 5, 2023, 8:55:19 AM8/5/23
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Cruise:
"Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer.
Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden,
sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
YouTube.COM/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
> > > Per capita, Washington DC makes 2.4x what Mississippi does ( 63,793 $ vz 26,807 ).
>
>
> Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for the have nots ?
That'd be Capitol Hill & Joe Biden's inflation tax.
"Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer.
Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden,
sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
Mitchell Holman
Aug 5, 2023, 9:24:49 AM8/5/23
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"Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5--
5.46am.Seattle.2023:
And now the leader of the Republican party
loves Putin, he loves the Saudis, he loves
China, he is IN love with N Korea.
"There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."
Donald Trump, June 12 2018
http://tinyurl.com/yafnpjmy
"I was really tough and so was Kim Jong-un,
and we went back and forth," Trump told an
adoring crowd of thousands at Wesbanco Arena
in Wheeling. "And then we fell in love, OK?
No, really, he wrote me beautiful letters,
and they’re great letters. We fell in love."
Trump, Sept 2 2018
http://tinyurl.com/ya4hv8kh
5.46am.Seattle.2023:
loves Putin, he loves the Saudis, he loves
China, he is IN love with N Korea.
"There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."
Donald Trump, June 12 2018
http://tinyurl.com/yafnpjmy
"I was really tough and so was Kim Jong-un,
and we went back and forth," Trump told an
adoring crowd of thousands at Wesbanco Arena
in Wheeling. "And then we fell in love, OK?
No, really, he wrote me beautiful letters,
and they’re great letters. We fell in love."
Trump, Sept 2 2018
http://tinyurl.com/ya4hv8kh
NoBody
Aug 6, 2023, 9:42:11 AM8/6/23
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 05:23:22 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>Charlie Glock wrote:
>> The USA is quickly becoming a country of haves and havenots.
>> It will soon be a 2 class society:the elites and the rest of us poor.
>> We are headed towards a civil war of sorts and as we fight amongst ourselves,
>
>Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for
>the have nots?
Nothing at the federal level can happen without the Democrat
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>Charlie Glock wrote:
>> The USA is quickly becoming a country of haves and havenots.
>> It will soon be a 2 class society:the elites and the rest of us poor.
>> We are headed towards a civil war of sorts and as we fight amongst ourselves,
>
>Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for
>the have nots?
controlled Senate and President.
Go back to your drink.
-hh
Aug 6, 2023, 10:48:41 AM8/6/23
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to make that statement relevant to Siri’s notation of who has cut taxes?
Because IIRC, the last Fed income tax cut was done in December 2017,
when there was a triple Republican majority.
The 2017 TCJA set up permanent cuts for business. It also included some
temporary cuts for non-business owning individuals, probably to garner support,
even as it significantly increased the deficit and was done so in a “booming”
economy, which is the opposite of basic fiscal principles, as per Keynesian
economics..
FYI, the 2017 TCJA has multiple individual expiration dates, some of
which have already passed, and it comes fully to an end on 12/31/2025.
YMMV, but even though ending them is the fiscally responsible thing to do,
I expect we will see partisan attacks from Republicans to try to blame
Democrats for allowing them to end in the 2026 midterms, even though
that’s what will happen in a “do nothing” scenario.
-hh
Mr. B1ack
Aug 6, 2023, 2:17:36 PM8/6/23
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on the haves and reduced benefits for the have-nots. That's what they always do.
Relf
Aug 6, 2023, 9:09:41 PM8/6/23
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Joe Biden's inflation tax takes housing from the poorest.
"CPI-U", Greater Seattle, "Rent of Primary Residence" was 472.469 June 30, 2023,
up 9.8 % from June 30, 2022. Up 4.06 %/YEAR since 1984,
4.72469 ^ ( 1/( 2023 - 1984 )).
BLS.GOV/Regions/West/news-release/ConsumerPriceIndex_Seattle.HTM
January 1, 2022, my rent went up 9.8 % from January 1, 2021.
January 1, 2024, my rent will go up 9.8 % from January 1, 2023.
( 9.8 % is the maximum allowed before penalties kick in )
On average, all of Seattle is experiencing this, not just me.
"CPI-U", Greater Seattle, "Rent of Primary Residence" was 472.469 June 30, 2023,
up 9.8 % from June 30, 2022. Up 4.06 %/YEAR since 1984,
4.72469 ^ ( 1/( 2023 - 1984 )).
BLS.GOV/Regions/West/news-release/ConsumerPriceIndex_Seattle.HTM
January 1, 2022, my rent went up 9.8 % from January 1, 2021.
January 1, 2024, my rent will go up 9.8 % from January 1, 2023.
( 9.8 % is the maximum allowed before penalties kick in )
On average, all of Seattle is experiencing this, not just me.
Joel
Aug 6, 2023, 9:46:58 PM8/6/23
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low income housing ...
--
Joel Crump
Governor Swill
Aug 7, 2023, 12:21:12 AM8/7/23
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*laughs and points*
Swill
--
Typical modern conservative argument:
1. Never happened...fake news!
2. Ok, it happened, but not like the fake news said!
3. Ok, it happened like they said, but no crime was committed!
4. Ok, it happened and it was a crime, but not a big one!
5. Biden crime family!!!!!!!
GO RFK! https://www.kennedy24.com/?locale=en
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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Relf
Aug 7, 2023, 12:48:11 AM8/7/23
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You (Swilly) replied ( to me ):
Wasn't Jimmy Carter's stagflation his downfall ?!
> > Joe Biden's inflation tax takes housing from the poorest.
>
>
> Your rent went up and it's the President's fault ?
Joe Biden's inflation hasn't taxed the homeless ?!
Wasn't Jimmy Carter's stagflation his downfall ?!
Governor Swill
Aug 7, 2023, 3:03:44 AM8/7/23
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stagflation.
Swill
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https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate
Inflation is already at Fed target.
It is below the long term historical average.
Unemployment remains low at under 4%.
Relf
Aug 7, 2023, 4:55:45 AM8/7/23
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You (Swilly) replied ( to me ):
> > Jimmy Carter's stagflation was his downfall.
>
> Inflation is already at Fed target.
How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
> Inflation is already at Fed target.
Scout
Aug 7, 2023, 11:19:00 AM8/7/23
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"Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote in message
news:Jeff-R...@Aug.5--5.55am.Seattle.2023...
realize that the people they are asking this from ARE the right.
50% of the members of Congress are part of the top 1%
Do you REALLY think they are going to TAX THEMSELVES???
Why else do you think all these loopholes and exceptions exist.. because
they put them there so they wouldn't have to pay the taxes.
Governor Swill
Aug 7, 2023, 12:42:36 PM8/7/23
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:55:33 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
There's been homelessness in all states since Reagan ended Revenue Sharing.
>How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
Perhaps you're too young to remember what a hot, new issue homelessness was in the
eighties.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 7, 2023, 12:45:19 PM8/7/23
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[Default] Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> typed:
>On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:55:33 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>>How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
>
>There's been homelessness in all states since Reagan ended Revenue Sharing.
Drug abuse
>On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:55:33 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>>How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
>
>There's been homelessness in all states since Reagan ended Revenue Sharing.
Joel
Aug 7, 2023, 12:47:19 PM8/7/23
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Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
wrote:
"The symptom is, itself, the core problem." - Klaus.
--
Joel Crump
wrote:
--
Joel Crump
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 7, 2023, 1:21:17 PM8/7/23
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[Default] Joel <joel...@gmail.com> typed:
Wrong, as you usually are. Homelessness doesn't cause drug abuse.
pothead
Aug 7, 2023, 2:39:16 PM8/7/23
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Both parties are interested in their self preservation, building up their bank account and not
following what the constituents truly need.
--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
Joel
Aug 7, 2023, 2:56:44 PM8/7/23
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drug users aren't homeless or mentally ill. You're observing the
symptom, the bumwine bottle, the guy lying around in public drunk, but
the truth is that the alcohol just makes such a life tolerable.
--
Joel Crump
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 7, 2023, 3:01:44 PM8/7/23
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Scout
Aug 7, 2023, 3:11:36 PM8/7/23
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"Joel" <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:vff2dipu0hlfbit77...@4ax.com...
alcohol abuse..
Seems whatever they were escaping from, was only made far worse by their
'escape'.
Proctor
Aug 7, 2023, 9:31:10 PM8/7/23
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sounds like right wing red state healthcare to me
Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 3:30:24 AM8/8/23
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Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 3:36:18 AM8/8/23
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 10:21:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>[Default] Joel <joel...@gmail.com> typed:
>[Default] Joel <joel...@gmail.com> typed:
>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>[Default] Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:55:33 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>>>>How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
>>>>There's been homelessness in all states since Reagan ended Revenue Sharing.
>>>Drug abuse
>>"The symptom is, itself, the core problem." - Klaus.
>Wrong, as you usually are. Homelessness doesn't cause drug abuse.
The symptoms only present the disease. The cause of the disease is the core problem. What
>>>[Default] Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:55:33 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>>>>How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?
>>>>There's been homelessness in all states since Reagan ended Revenue Sharing.
>>>Drug abuse
>>"The symptom is, itself, the core problem." - Klaus.
>Wrong, as you usually are. Homelessness doesn't cause drug abuse.
causes the individual to become homeless?
Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 3:37:40 AM8/8/23
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of it.
Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 3:40:27 AM8/8/23
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 12:01:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Yep, and vice versa. They're often hand in hand.
Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 3:44:44 AM8/8/23
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:08:57 -0500, "Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
wrote:
Fewer would go that way if we had better mental and emotional health counseling in primary
schools.
wrote:
schools.
Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 4:58:46 AM8/8/23
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 10:16:36 -0500, "Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
wrote:
>
>
>"Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote in message
>news:Jeff-R...@Aug.5--5.55am.Seattle.2023...
>> Cruise:
>>> > > Per capita, Washington DC makes 2.4x what Mississippi does ( 63,793 $
>>> > > vz 26,807 ).
>>>
>>> Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for the have
>>> nots ?
>>
>> That'd be Capitol Hill & Joe Biden's inflation tax.
>>
>> "Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer.
>>
>> Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden,
>> sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
>> YouTube.COM/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
>
>What gets me is that those calling for the rich to be taxed.. don't seem to
>realize that the people they are asking this from ARE the right.
>
>50% of the members of Congress are part of the top 1%
That's not true. Prove this claim or retract it.
>Do you REALLY think they are going to TAX THEMSELVES???
>
>Why else do you think all these loopholes and exceptions exist.. because
>they put them there so they wouldn't have to pay the taxes.
Yes, and . . .
Do you really think any hard working guys are going to realize this screws themselves?
wrote:
>
>
>"Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote in message
>news:Jeff-R...@Aug.5--5.55am.Seattle.2023...
>> Cruise:
>>> > > Per capita, Washington DC makes 2.4x what Mississippi does ( 63,793 $
>>> > > vz 26,807 ).
>>>
>>> Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for the have
>>> nots ?
>>
>> That'd be Capitol Hill & Joe Biden's inflation tax.
>>
>> "Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer.
>>
>> Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden,
>> sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
>> YouTube.COM/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
>
>What gets me is that those calling for the rich to be taxed.. don't seem to
>realize that the people they are asking this from ARE the right.
>
>50% of the members of Congress are part of the top 1%
>Do you REALLY think they are going to TAX THEMSELVES???
>
>Why else do you think all these loopholes and exceptions exist.. because
>they put them there so they wouldn't have to pay the taxes.
Do you really think any hard working guys are going to realize this screws themselves?
Governor Swill
Aug 8, 2023, 5:04:59 AM8/8/23
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 18:39:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:
>We pretty much have become a uniparty.
Why? Because power is split fifty-fifty between the two parties.
>We pretty much have become a uniparty.
The Republicans have 49 Senators, the Democrats 48. There are three independents who
caucus with the Democrats for a majority of 51 votes.
The GOP holds the House with an equally slim advantage of 9 seats in that 435 seat house.
The Democrats have the White House but the SCOTUS is currently heavily conservative.
That's a pretty even split by any measure.
>Both parties are interested in their self preservation, building up their bank account and not
>following what the constituents truly need.
struggle and get on to resolving the nation's business?
chrisv
Aug 8, 2023, 6:57:13 PM8/8/23
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Governor Swill wrote:
> Bud Dickmann <b...@phil.con> wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>>> ideals as Americans.
>>>
>>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>>
>>The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>>pointed out lies to the tech companies. The tech companies either took down the
>>lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
They successfully pressured them to censor, EVEN TRUE STORIES FROM
REAL PEOPLE, you disingenuous shit.
>>Stop lying.
Never started, asshole.
>He can't stop lying. He's a Republican.
I've never once lied in here.
Now you are documented liar, "Swill". Congratulations.
> Bud Dickmann <b...@phil.con> wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>>> ideals as Americans.
>>>
>>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>>
>>The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>>pointed out lies to the tech companies. The tech companies either took down the
>>lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
They successfully pressured them to censor, EVEN TRUE STORIES FROM
REAL PEOPLE, you disingenuous shit.
>>Stop lying.
Never started, asshole.
>He can't stop lying. He's a Republican.
I've never once lied in here.
Now you are documented liar, "Swill". Congratulations.
Bud Dickmann
Aug 8, 2023, 7:02:58 PM8/8/23
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On 8/8/2023 3:57 PM, chrisv wrote:
> Governor Swill wrote:
>
>> Bud Dickmann <b...@phil.con> wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>>>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>>>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>>>> ideals as Americans.
>>>>
>>>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>>>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>>>
>>> The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>>> pointed out lies to the tech companies. The tech companies either took down the
>>> lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
>
> They successfully pressured them to censor,
That's a lie. Stop lying.
> Governor Swill wrote:
>
>> Bud Dickmann <b...@phil.con> wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>>>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>>>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>>>> ideals as Americans.
>>>>
>>>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>>>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>>>
>>> The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>>> pointed out lies to the tech companies. The tech companies either took down the
>>> lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
>
> They successfully pressured them to censor,
>>> Stop lying.
>
> Never started, asshole.
>> He can't stop lying. He's a Republican.
>
> I've never once lied in here.
chrisv
Aug 8, 2023, 7:04:37 PM8/8/23
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Governor Swill wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>
>*laughs and points*
That's the best that a leftist can do, when they have no argument or
rebuttal.
>The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
Nothing I wrote was a lie, you POS.
Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
Only an *asshole* would deny my point that some *balance* was needed,
*someplace* were everyone could speak freely.
> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>
>*laughs and points*
That's the best that a leftist can do, when they have no argument or
rebuttal.
>The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
Nothing I wrote was a lie, you POS.
Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
Only an *asshole* would deny my point that some *balance* was needed,
*someplace* were everyone could speak freely.
chrisv
Aug 8, 2023, 7:05:22 PM8/8/23
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Bud Dickmann wrote:
>> They successfully pressured them to censor,
>
> That's a lie. Stop lying.
*Plonk*
>> They successfully pressured them to censor,
>
> That's a lie. Stop lying.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Aug 8, 2023, 7:43:40 PM8/8/23
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[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:
>On 8/8/2023 3:57 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>
>>> Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:
> The tech companies either took down the
>>>> lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
>>
>> They successfully pressured them to censor,
>
>That's a lie. Stop lying.
That's a *FACT* "Cunt Flaps.* You KNOW it's a fact.
https://nypost.com/2022/10/31/feds-keep-facebook-censorship-portal-despite-dhs-disinfo-board-demise/
https://www.aclu-nj.org/en/know-your-rights/when-public-officials-censor-you-social-media
https://www.foxnews.com/media/zuckerberg-says-establishment-asked-facebook-censor-covid-misinfo-ended-true-undermines-trust
Get up off your knees and stop sucking government cock, and do it at
the Jolly Kone Parking Lot like you usually do, "Cunt Flaps."
[chuckle]
>On 8/8/2023 3:57 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>>>>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>>>>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>>>>> ideals as Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>>>>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>>>>
>>>> The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>>>> pointed out lies to the tech companies.
ROFLMAO!!!
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A year or two ago, I was complaining about leftists censoring opposing
>>>>> views, and -highhorse and others hid behind the "they are private
>>>>> companies" argument. I argued that it was still wrong and against our
>>>>> ideals as Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, now that it's been proven that the government told various
>>>>> social networks what to censor, they can't even hide behind that!
>>>>
>>>> The government didn't "tell" anyone to censor anything, you fucktard. They
>>>> pointed out lies to the tech companies.
> The tech companies either took down the
>>>> lies or they didn't. The government didn't "make" them take anything down.
>>
>> They successfully pressured them to censor,
>
>That's a lie. Stop lying.
https://nypost.com/2022/10/31/feds-keep-facebook-censorship-portal-despite-dhs-disinfo-board-demise/
https://www.aclu-nj.org/en/know-your-rights/when-public-officials-censor-you-social-media
https://www.foxnews.com/media/zuckerberg-says-establishment-asked-facebook-censor-covid-misinfo-ended-true-undermines-trust
Get up off your knees and stop sucking government cock, and do it at
the Jolly Kone Parking Lot like you usually do, "Cunt Flaps."
[chuckle]
Governor Swill
Aug 9, 2023, 1:55:24 AM8/9/23
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>Now you are documented liar, "Swill". Congratulations.
Swill
--
Insurrection will not be tolerated.
signed, United States, The
Governor Swill
Aug 9, 2023, 1:57:14 AM8/9/23
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The best part is, you won't be able to see us or defend against us when we catch you in
the future.
YOU ARE POWERLESS AGAINST US, REPUBLICAN!
Governor Swill
Aug 9, 2023, 1:59:41 AM8/9/23
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 18:04:34 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Governor Swill wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>>
>>*laughs and points*
>
>That's the best that a leftist can do, when they have no argument or
>rebuttal.
>
>>The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
>
>Nothing I wrote was a lie, you POS.
Everything you write is a lie.
>Governor Swill wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>EVERY OTHER platform is radically leftist.
>>
>>*laughs and points*
>
>That's the best that a leftist can do, when they have no argument or
>rebuttal.
>
>>The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
>
>Nothing I wrote was a lie, you POS.
>
>Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
>companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
Wrong. Delusional twits like you believe it. But then, you believe the 2020 election was
>Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
>companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
rigged too, so what do *you* know?
>Only an *asshole* would deny my point that some *balance* was needed,
>*someplace* were everyone could speak freely.
your speech may have consequences.
Joel
Aug 9, 2023, 2:28:02 AM8/9/23
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Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 18:04:34 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
>>companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
>
>Wrong. Delusional twits like you believe it. But then, you believe the 2020 election was
>rigged too, so what do *you* know?
When did chrisv claim that?
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 18:04:34 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
>>companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
>
>Wrong. Delusional twits like you believe it. But then, you believe the 2020 election was
>rigged too, so what do *you* know?
--
Joel Crump
chrisv
Aug 9, 2023, 4:37:15 PM8/9/23
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Governor Swill wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 18:05:19 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
(snipped, unread)
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 18:05:19 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Asshole.
chrisv
Aug 9, 2023, 4:55:25 PM8/9/23
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Governor Swill wrote:
>chrisv wrote:
>>
>>Governor Swill wrote:
>>>
>>> Bud Dickmann <b...@phil.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Stop lying.
>>
>>Never started, asshole.
>>
>>>He can't stop lying. He's a Republican.
>>
>>I've never once lied in here.
>>
You had your chance to show where I was wrong, leftist. I made some
reasonable points, and all you could respond with was ridicule and
lies. You will now be treated with the disrespect that you deserve.
I will add, that in addition to big tech and the major social media
platforms, that almost all of the legacy media has *also* been
captured by the left, as has the federal government!
Remember this recent event, for the "crime" of "shoving" some
beligerant asshole who was screaming at him and his kid, outside of an
abortion clinic?
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/253523/acquitted-pro-life-activist-mark-houck-reveals-details-of-fbi-raid-will-press-charges
'At the time of the arrest, Houck’s wife, Ryan-Marie Houck, told CNA
that “a SWAT team of about 25 came to my house with about 15 vehicles
and started pounding on our door.” She added: “They said they were
going to break in if he didn’t open it. And then they had about five
guns pointed at my husband, myself, and basically at my kids.”'
THINK about that, everyone. Think of those numbers, 25, 15, and 5!
Even if they're off by a factor of two, it's still *despicable*
conduct by the leftists in the Biden administration.
Now these GD *leftists* cry like babies because *one* major social
media platform isn't censoring only those on the right. Sheesh!
>chrisv wrote:
>>
>>Governor Swill wrote:
>>>
>>> Bud Dickmann <b...@phil.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Stop lying.
>>
>>Never started, asshole.
>>
>>>He can't stop lying. He's a Republican.
>>
>>I've never once lied in here.
>>
>>Now you are documented liar, "Swill". Congratulations.
>
> (snipped, unread)
>
You had your chance to show where I was wrong, leftist. I made some
reasonable points, and all you could respond with was ridicule and
lies. You will now be treated with the disrespect that you deserve.
I will add, that in addition to big tech and the major social media
platforms, that almost all of the legacy media has *also* been
captured by the left, as has the federal government!
Remember this recent event, for the "crime" of "shoving" some
beligerant asshole who was screaming at him and his kid, outside of an
abortion clinic?
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/253523/acquitted-pro-life-activist-mark-houck-reveals-details-of-fbi-raid-will-press-charges
'At the time of the arrest, Houck’s wife, Ryan-Marie Houck, told CNA
that “a SWAT team of about 25 came to my house with about 15 vehicles
and started pounding on our door.” She added: “They said they were
going to break in if he didn’t open it. And then they had about five
guns pointed at my husband, myself, and basically at my kids.”'
THINK about that, everyone. Think of those numbers, 25, 15, and 5!
Even if they're off by a factor of two, it's still *despicable*
conduct by the leftists in the Biden administration.
Now these GD *leftists* cry like babies because *one* major social
media platform isn't censoring only those on the right. Sheesh!
chrisv
Aug 9, 2023, 4:59:46 PM8/9/23
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Governor Swill wrote:
>chrisv wrote:
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>chrisv wrote:
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>>Governor Swill wrote:
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>>>The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
The leftist *lied* when he claimed that I lied. How ironic.
>>>
>>>The LIES Republicans tell themselves!
>>Nothing I wrote was a lie, you POS.
>>
>>Only a *liar* would deny the absolute leftist control over the tech
>>companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
>>
>>companies and social media, up until Muck bought Twitter.
>>
>>Only an *asshole* would deny my point that some *balance* was needed,
>>*someplace* were everyone could speak freely.
>
> (snipped, unread)
>>*someplace* were everyone could speak freely.
>
Fuck you, lying leftist.
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